NHS Queue Jumpers
SO now it's official - if you are an English-speaking taxpayer you go to the bottom of the NHS waiting list.
Our health service should treat everybody EQUALLY - not give preference to the select few who speak whatever lingo happens to be politically correct.
It disgusts me that speakers of overseas languages are allowed to jump the queue. If it was the other way around and people who speak foreign languages were treated last, the NHS would be prosecuted for racial discrimination.
So why are our misguided hospital chiefs allowed to discriminate against English-speakers?
The reason this government only promises education but not carrying out is: If you have an uneducated people you can tell them anything and they believe you.An uneducated person is easily led,and will vote for labour as he/she will have no imaginations.
Posted by: Les | Dec 23, 2007 6:51:17 PM
Unbelievable! I've just read a comment by my father written on September 9th.
I would like to remind him that he was indeed an immigrant when he first came here looking for better prospects and a better life and then he moved to the states as an immigrant again!
We should be living in a world with no boarders, we can all up sticks and move somewhere else if we want to and people in this country often do.
Let's not turn in to a bunch of racists eh? And Dad, remember where you bloody came from!
Posted by: Yasmin Agilah | Dec 17, 2007 6:27:59 PM
immigration.WHAT ARE THE GOOD POINTS IF ANY. our pathetic leaders tell us it is good for our economy.Well is one murder one rape one road death good for our economy do our pathetic poloticians think these increased murders rapes road deaths scams i can go on .do our pathetic poloticians put the so called benifits these scroungers bring to our country above these deaths rapes increased crimes.if it wasnt for these immigrants those firemen would still be alivealso enoch powell was mentioned by a tory mp and labour want him sacked its the labour mp who want sacking they are not intouch with us voters im not a racist we got to many comeing inlook at iraqis irianians they dont get on we will have riots in our streets enoch was spot on all those years back.what happens when another major war and our boys go off to fight what about these immigrants how many will stand by us not many .
Posted by: robert day | Nov 4, 2007 5:48:10 PM
It doesnt take a the brains of an archbishop to realise how bad the immigration problem is, distroying the belief of the British people, in not only how the government are coping but also how it is affecting relations between nationalised citizens and the immigrants comming in. I can only imagine that the government think that the damage already done by Blairs goverment cannot be rectified, and we should bury our heads in the sand and hope all gets better. This will never happen, I was always brought up to believe that the simplest solutions are always the best and our colonial cousins the Australians use this mentality, we should adopt a leaf out of their book. The government should close all borders for a period of five years to Immigration, and task the dept and customs in charge of this field to process all the immigrants already here, and over this period send back all that are no benefit for this country, they should also at this stage stop all benefits "Handouts" to none nationals, this will force all immigrants who only arrive here to get these benefits go back to their own country. The benefit system we have is the most generous in Europe and this is why we have such high numbers arriving in the country, not that they want to work but want to receive benefits. After five years and once we have our systems properly Installed & controlled then and only then should we open the borders, and only to those that can provide something to the economy.
Posted by: Robert | Nov 4, 2007 4:01:45 PM
We have beaten Emperor Napoleon, we have beaten would be Emperor Hitler yet we can not beat unelected, want to be Emperor Brown.We have problems like NHS, Imigration,Education Crime,REFERENDUM he is not interested.He betrayed us. Brown you will go down in history as a traitor to British people.
Posted by: Les | Oct 23, 2007 9:35:31 PM
Why are we still letting in millions of immigrants when we already have a housing shortage and are having to consider building on more and more of our green land. Lets be sensible and limit the amount of immigrants, our population is increasing fast enough without them and lets keep housing in Britain for British people.
Posted by: Mrs Judy Story | Oct 21, 2007 11:29:40 PM
I voted for labour but i won't bother again.The country is not our own anymore.There will be nothing left of the British way of life.My three girls are growing up seeing a very different way of life than i did.I agree with the other people there are far to many immigrants coming in to britain ,i also think it is very dangerous and there seems to be no end of it all.The goverment have done nothing to discourage it all.We as a family have got nothing but disgust for the goverment.
Posted by: hazel | Oct 21, 2007 10:18:09 PM
I am from a working class background, with my belated father teaching me the way's of right and wrong and actively encouraging me to strive to achieve my very best at everything I do, both in education and my working life.
His aim was alway's to make a better life for myself than he had as a Welsh miner. He as I have to date alway's worked very hard and I feel I have achieved a great deal, owning my own house and being married for twenty four years,and three teanage daughters, two of which are currently at university and the third on the National gifted childrens programme.
You see I delivered the same message to my girls as my father did to me, actively encouraging them to strive to achieve their potential, telling them that "you get nothing for nothing".
And "you only get out what you put in"
However I have to say that the current government, whom by the way are only put into office to manage the country in the best interests of the country, which they govern, or am I wrong? and was my farther wrong and even his father before him.
All of my girls are much better educated than I and they are all talking about leaving this country once they have finished their education, is that right and to be honest with you what is the point of working all my life, becoming accepting of this kind of mindless and thoughtless act of allowing so many migrants into this country, when for any normal person with an once of sence can clearly see its wrong and before long the British public are going to wake up and say "enough is enough".
Posted by: Tony Cook | Oct 21, 2007 8:38:03 PM
How the hell can this crazy goverment, the ppl we have entrusted our futures and that of our children. embrace the influx of so many imigrants and even encorage it,
perhaps its easier to allow them in and make all the hollow excuses then it is to admit to us the voter's the tax payers that we have really screwed up and to be honest "if thats posible from a politician" admit they really can not control the flood.
If we had a zero ppl drawing benifits and IF our Grandparents had a resonable standard of living from the state pension and IF our schools hospitals and other vital resources were not pushed to and beyond breaking strain then perhaps a few migrant workers would be acceptible.
Am i racist? NO im an English man and i want England to be what the men who are burried in Normandy and all over Europe died for, a green and pleasant land that has its own unique way of life.
Posted by: Colin Cook | Oct 21, 2007 7:03:22 PM
i dont see any reason why immigrants should not get into Britain as long as they are willing to work some of the lazy British dont want to work because the British Government gives parents and single mothers with large families too much money, most of the immigrants i know would put the British to shame.I AM A 66 YEAR OLD FEMALE PENSIONER I HAVE WORKED ALL MY LIFE AND I AM STILL WORKING TO MAKE ENDS MEET, SO STOP GIVING THE lazy British claiming unemployment Benefits and D.L.A stop there money then they will have to work like the good honest British people
Posted by: patricia rainey | Oct 21, 2007 2:05:10 PM
i cannot understand how gordon brown can tell us that he is creating jobs for the english. Then i read that the amount of immagrants that is to enter the country is set to rise as if things arent bad enough now. It just proves that the goverment does think. i was out of work for nine months due to employment agencys recruiting foriegn workers. It is frustrating that they are picked before us when this is our country it is no wonder we are so fed up with them an dont like them. And it explains alot when the BNP got 13 seat in parliment. It goes to show what people are thinking. If things aren't done now to sort out now it will only get worse and we will be made to feel like foriegners in our own country.
Posted by: david reene | Oct 21, 2007 1:03:13 PM
I vote for labour thinking there will do better.
No, Their have made my live a misery.I have work hard an still 9 years ago I become Disable and a heart problem and now an able to stand & walk which am on wheelchair.Croydon Council has not help much to help diasbled people and now there are to cut down the spending to help them.I have been on the waiting list for 3 year to transfer to a bugalow which is not alot around croydon, with cutting down mean more waiting.
And yet Big Gordon Brown want to go ahead with million immigrants pour into Britain giving them a house help with the furniture and all the benefit their can get hold of, mean we got to build more home for them to live in which their get it sooner they can. Why can they do the same for me, am just important as they are.
So come on Gordon Brown release the cash to help out for disabled people not just for immigrants and build a 2 bedroom bugalow with the help of grant, Then I might vote you next time.
Posted by: Peter Wood | Oct 21, 2007 12:49:43 PM
I think the reason for government not bothering about the MRSA and C-diff in our hospitals is: If old pensioners die from thise disease the government is saving on pensions.More money for illegals.
Posted by: Lajos | Oct 16, 2007 3:17:32 PM
I came to Britain in 1957, I arrived on British soil at Dover at 10:00 am and start working my first shift on same day 2pm to 10pm.I went to evening classes and learned English language as I never had an interpreter. And I never needed one.I had three jobs in 50 years I have been here. My last employment was 35 years an till I retired.I have never been unemployed between my changing jobs.I have got a British nationality and Iam proud to be British. The first 5 years in Britain I had to have a (Police Registration Book) with photo, and had to report to police within 24hrs if I changed my address.I believe any foreign person should not be automaticly entilted to handouts.
Foreign pregnant women come to this country 2 weeks before they are due to have they babies on NHS and then they vanish to they own country without paying. Lets stop the easy entry to Britain.
Posted by: Les | Oct 15, 2007 4:08:57 PM
My partner who was worked in one of East Anglian hospital often complained to a foreign domestic cleaner in his department that she should do her job more intensly, and her answer was, you no my boss.Me go see harrasment manager. The beds,toilets,never cleaned propely. On the end they decided there is no win situation. It wasn`t worth the risk losing they job.When he started work in hospital 40 years ago there was a cleaner lady allocated permenantly to the same ward. She had a pride in her work.But not any more.I hope my letter will pass the PC view.
Posted by: June Ellis | Oct 15, 2007 3:30:10 PM
I am one of just 360,000 people who left the Island called ukstan, with me i took all the proceeds from my house sale, and i no longer contribute my 17500 pounds in taxes income and stealth, ok multiply that by 360,000 and you get 63,000,000.00 pounds every year denied to the inland revenue {not wasting mine on immigrants anymore when i cant get benefit from it} Sorry to say all those who stay have to pay more and more not only to make up for losses from ex pats but to fill the pockets of 3 times that many immigrants. My advice GET OUT before you get trapped in houses worth nothing and enjoy your life in the sun YOU ONLY LIVE ONCE..and do you think the next government are going to be any better.they will be better off you wont...Pushed out of my own country what a BUMMER...Thanks blair you ***** for nothing
Posted by: Tia Katz | Oct 15, 2007 3:05:45 PM
3 years ago i was in hospital contracted mrsa in an open chest wound i've still got it, i was in st thomas's for 10 months, my throat was damaged and i'm now left with a permenent trachy and have nurses visiting daily to re dress the wound in my chest. the whole point of me posting this is to let people know that mrsa completly ruins your life.to this day i have never recieved any compensation despite trying various avenues and i feel like a statistic but it's somebody,s life that will never be the same because of this. also i was back there in february of this year and in my opinion the standard of hygene had not seemed to have improved at all.
Posted by: Janet benton | Oct 14, 2007 1:22:11 PM
Could I please draw your attention to the suffering of my brother. He was admitted to
Pendleview Mental Unit in Blackburn in September 2006, suffering from dementia at the age of just 52. Physically he was fit and was not taking medication other than prescribed tablets for epilepsy, he was aware of where he was and constantly asked to go home wanting to know why he was there, this was not to be. The unit openly admitted my brother
Chris needed one to one therapy to help him and that they were not equiped to do this. There were no facilities for him there and he
was to be reallocated elsewhere asap. Until such a time he was placed in
a dirty room , tiny with a window and a toilet. It was filthy with plates and old food left under the bed, we often took bleach and cloths to try to clean his sleeping area. We were told he needed to be removed to residential care., but needed funding, This was the start of an on-going battle. My 76 year old mother has written to numerous
councillors and had various social workers attached to the case, but after many meetings Chris was found not to fit into the category for Dementia (he was not old enough) so funding was refused.
Sadly my brothers health diminished, he began to lose weight and he was becoming desperate to be released, his mental state was deemed,
not good enough for this to happen and soon after he began having bouts
of diorrhea and bleeding from behind. He was admitted to the Royal Blackburn Hospital were it was discovered he had contracted
Clostridium Difficile. He was dreadfully ill and almost died. He was sent back to
the mental health unit as soon as signs of recovery were noticed, only
to be re-admitted with the C.Dif yet again weeks later, this happened frequently over the next few months.
My family and i were called to the hospital this week to be told Chris
has cancer of the bowel, sadly he is too weak and ill from his bouts of
C.Dif to face the operation and we are now left with the task of refusing treatment so as not to prolong his suffering, we know he is
now going to die. I have photographic evidence of the state Chris was in upon a visit this week to him. Sat in his own urine with no
bottoms on, which was pouring under the door, his bed saturated with urine, and
his sheets caked in old and fresh blood, he was attempting to eat his
meal sat in this dreadful state. My mother held him in her arms
sobbing she was also covered in urine when she let him go, distraught
as nurses came in apologetically (after i approached them angrily on
the ward for the 2nd time to ask for him too be cleaned up for us).
They apologised saying "we are not allowed to clean him up its the
rules that all cleaning is done by a domestic".
What awaits my brother now i cannot imagine, i buried my father two
weeks ago and now must console my mother further as we await my
brothers fate. My argument hear is (A). If residential care had
been found and Chris removed with adequate funding, he would not have
contracted C.Dif. (B). The state of both units is disgraceful, in
fact MRSA has been contracted at Blackburn Hospital in the Neo-Natal
unit it has been shut down only recently, and (C.) My brother may
have contracted cancer of the bowel anyway, but he walked into that
hospital physically fit, if he had not contracted C.Dif he may have
been strong enough to survive the treatment and surgery need ed to
give
him a chance, as it is you could lift him off the sheets and we will
certainly be carrying our brother out of hospital.
I am now considering legal action, i have no money but I do not care
it is about Chris, that he does not die in vain and to bring the
state
of the hospitals and the NHS to peoples attenton, because this should
not happen to anybody else.
Posted by: Angela Smith | Oct 14, 2007 11:23:58 AM
I have just returned from knee surgery in France. I had to pay for it myself as NHS wait was too long and they could not gurantee my health regarding infections.
The clinic i chose in France is free from MRSA etc and it was easy to see why. Nurses wear clean uniforms each day supplied at their arrival at the clinic (no travelling in the clothes they would wear when in contact with the patients.) No 'wards of patienrts, just individual rooms; The cleaners work the same shift as the nurses and thus had a great working relationship.
Whilst there, I was interviewed by French Radio as to why the NHS is so bad and so many English people are coming to France for treatment..... what could i say!!!!!!!! (I spoke for 30 mins)
Get rid of the tiers of management and get back to basics ---- why not send some of our NHS executive for a day to see how it should be done!
Posted by: Garry | Oct 14, 2007 10:36:08 AM
My mother of 71 spent 6 hours at north staffs univ hersity hospital in june 2006 were she had a angigram .Weeks later she had c-diff .April she was rusted to north staffs were c-diff was again confirmed,we thought we would loose her but again she pulled threw ,but 16 months later she still suffers that terrable diarrhoea every day,WHAT THE HELL CAN WE DO FOR HER ?no one seems to know
Posted by: angela | Oct 14, 2007 8:42:22 AM
Gordon Brown has lost his back bone does anyone know were its gone. He`s not even an elected prime minister. Come on Gordon let the british people have there say on who runs the country, and have a referemdom on the e.u treaty.
Posted by: david cheesman | Oct 7, 2007 6:45:42 PM
Afew years ago when my son was at school he was told there was not such a thing as discrimination against English people.Now 9 years down the line we all see it ,why as it taken us so long? It is about time we all stopped talking about it and DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT.Did you know at an open prison i know in Lincolnshire has to pay £10 per min. for a translator.Don't waste money on them they should be deported.I am sure only a revolution in this country is the only way back (if it is not too late already) Don't lets keep talking about it lets get on with it.
Posted by: Olivia Wolverson | Sep 20, 2007 1:56:50 PM
My Wife and I left UK many years ago to live and work abroad, on leaving, we decided to settle in another European Country and selected Cyprus,on arrival, we had to produce Bank Statements, prove that we have bought a property and have medical insurance, all this is to make sure that we are not a burden on the welfare state.
So why does the UK Government make it so easy for foreigners from all over the world to abuse the hospitality of hard working UK tax payers,the UK should vote to establish a Government that has the courage of convictions and only allow immigrants in that are self sufficient and have a trade to allow them to make a contribution to the UK society as a whole.
Well Im afraid its just a dream at the moment but I truely hope one day a honest politician with vision and common sense will step forward and deal with the injuctices that are going on to the UK people.
Posted by: douglas murphy | Sep 17, 2007 7:18:45 PM
Even racist,s need opperations ive never heard of any BNP members turning down triple by-pass operation,s because the surgeon was a immigrant. As for being patriotic we might have not have had a newspaper to e-mail to had it not been for soldiers from the commonwealth fighting for us in the war. Next time you watch the battle of britain movie note the czech and polish pilots who died for us . We have a ageing population and many uk worker,s who won,t work for a small wage packet . So we need immigrant,s to come here to work to keep the economy growing . Those who complain about them would be even more angry with a larger tax bill.If there is any abuse in the system it needs sorting out . But as some people have e-mailed askling for all immigrant,s to be sent home would leave the country in chaos.
Posted by: Dave Morp | Sep 17, 2007 12:21:34 AM
The thing that baffles me is,if these comments are what the indigenous population realy feels,and may i add, everyone i speak to,why does'nt the government listen.Iv'e never heard a comment on immigration from any of the 3 parties, are they all afraid to speak out,are their jobs,cushy lifestyles,the only thing they care about, but alas they dont live in our world do they.
Posted by: m tucker | Sep 16, 2007 9:30:32 PM
We should have on our voting cards, along with the parties to vote for, a section marked "no confidence in any party". These should also be counted and the results published.This would make politicians worried when they realise how many people, like my husband and I, who have no faith in any of them. Why, for instance, can we not close the financial handouts to newcomers into Britain, and bring in a similar system to Australia, i.e. they must have a paid job to go to or a certain amount of money to support themselves. The people all come here because we are too soft in handouts.
Posted by: barrie | Sep 16, 2007 3:06:21 PM
well what are we waiting for??? let the battle to get our country back begin.
Posted by: booty | Sep 16, 2007 9:34:46 AM
We must all complain to the government to stop this invasion!
Posted by: Sick of Immigrants | Sep 16, 2007 12:50:42 AM
Do as I do, pretend to be a foreigner and you will get priority treatment! Learn a bit og Polish or some other language and pass yourself off! It works!
Posted by: Not really Polish | Sep 16, 2007 12:49:53 AM
Stop letting immigrants in!
Posted by: Sam | Sep 16, 2007 12:48:38 AM
Do you leave your doors and windows open so that anyone can walk into your home and take your things? Yes, you do!
Posted by: Charlotte Browning | Sep 16, 2007 12:47:45 AM
The solution is to emigrate to Poland or Bulgaria, then come back in as an immigrant and pretend you do not speak English. Then you can live the life of Riley!
Posted by: Andy | Sep 16, 2007 12:46:44 AM
I have lived in many countries, and never, ever scrounged. I always work, learn the language of the country I go to, and respect their culture. I was born in England and I am Viking and proud of it. I am not a racist and I enjoy mixing with people from other lands. However, that does not mean that you should let them rip you off and take what is not theirs! People should never get welfare unless they have lived in the country and paid tax for at least 10 years!
Posted by: Immigrant hater | Sep 16, 2007 12:43:33 AM
The British are fools, they open their doors to the world's scum. You voted New Labour, you got what you deserved!
Posted by: Vicki | Sep 16, 2007 12:38:58 AM
I had to leave the country as I could no longer stand foreigners. If you keep giving them things like free medical treatment, of course they will keep coming!
Posted by: British Ex-Pat | Sep 16, 2007 12:37:36 AM
It is simple, abolish all welfare and you won't see the immigrants for dust!
Posted by: AM | Sep 16, 2007 12:34:01 AM
This Marxist Communist government brought all these immigrants here to be New Labour voters. That's all. Soon they will outnumber the British. There is nothing anyone can do because the government has already legislated with Human Rights and anti-discrimination watchdogs, so we are snookered. The only hope will be if people form vigilante groups to force immigrants onto boats and out of this country.
Posted by: Marilyn Havers | Sep 16, 2007 12:32:42 AM
People need to stop being nice to immigrants. Be rude and uncooperative and do not hire them! Sack any you employ now, but just make sure you do not reveal that it is based on race, or you will have a law suit on your hands and all sorts of government over-paid bureaucrats accusing you of racism! When it is the foreginers who are the racists! They come to this country to scrounge of British taxpayers!
Posted by: Margaret Wood | Sep 16, 2007 12:29:54 AM
Abolish the NHS and all other welfare, other than aged pensions and pensions for ex-service people, and you will see a mass exodus of tese unwanted and unwelcome immigrants!
Posted by: Bernadette Collins | Sep 16, 2007 12:27:04 AM
Any that can be deported should be and no new arrivals allowed in at all. It is either that or see the country go broke!
Posted by: Elizabeth Kent | Sep 16, 2007 12:25:36 AM
There is no point complaining, because the government has already enacted legislation that will see you charged with being a racist if you complain. Nu Labor brought millions of immigrants in to ensure that they stay in power forever, as unskilled immigrants, many dependent on welfare, are all Nu Labor voters!
Posted by: Mary | Sep 16, 2007 12:24:14 AM
I agree I can't get dental treatment for myself or my daughter unless I pay. What happens to the polish and other immigrants. I bet they don't have to pay. We run our own company and pay Tax, only to be pushed at the back of the waiting list time and time again.
What is the future going to be like for our children if this carries on.
Posted by: Miss Walker | Sep 14, 2007 12:05:32 PM
@jane
Based on your comments and being an American I
wanted to say that we are facing the same problems in this country. Yes, American taxpayers do pay for our own indidualized insurance, but most illegals get many of the free perks that someone else mentioned earlier in this forum.
The illegal situation is becoming extremely heated here and many Americans are making sure that the President and Congress does something about it. The President has been trying to push an amnesty bill, and it hasn't passed yet. Americans have become quite active on this matter. Many illegals are leaving in droves or their deported because of the American fury.
Check out this site and look up the topics on illegal immigration and it will explain a lot.
http://www.topix.net/forum/news/immigration/
"i think we should be like america and have to take out insurance,scrap national insurance and the nhs and make people buy health insurance it would put a stop to these scroungers and it would solve the immigration problem, by the way i wonder if you go to other countrys is asylum seeker an occupation on their governments data base because it is on ours and they wonder why rascism is rife."
Posted by: Arlene | Sep 14, 2007 8:32:58 AM
this is not england no more. i think its time that **** brown started to open is eyes and see what goin on because englisth people will soon takein the law into ther own hands we can not put up with this crap any more. My dad is ill from bein down the coal mines at 14 now he is 68 and ill from the dust on is chest and he gets nothin why i ask him he say it because he is english this is very bad.ther will be a war england fightin back for WHAT IS OURS
Posted by: pure englisth claire | Sep 13, 2007 9:58:16 PM
This IS a disgrace !! Wake up Englishmen and bombard your MP´s about this grossly unfair treatment!! Foreigners who go to live in another country MUST learn to adapt to their new country. That means LEARN the LANGUAGE, ADOPT the CUSTOMS. Expect NO FREE handouts at Taxpayers expense. THINK of your RESPONSIBILITIES to your NEW COUNTRY and BE GRATEFUL!!!I live in a foreign country and that is my way of thinking.
Posted by: harriett tyrrell spain | Sep 13, 2007 4:22:40 PM
my blood is boiling.First because. My new mecanical heart valve is working overtime after reading all this.I had an a operation abroad after an acute illness .I had to pay as they could not take the E111, Iam still awaiting reimbursements .I was very well looked after.It`s thanks to them I`m alive .However no translater was offered to me when I got in touch with the british embassy for help.Some Dr`s did speak a little english.
Can any one tell me if iI would be within my rights to sue the NHS for discriminating on the grounds that they would not translate the medical note`s I brought back five weeks after the operation?.I had to wait three months to see a cardiologist.I was clearly not well and suffering side effects from drugs that should have been stopped.Health worker`s clearly did not understand what my operation entailed . I was dicharged after the one appointment and told they would send me an appointment in a years time.I am sure this is not the correct health care.
second..........Jen 12Sep.7-10 English teacher EH!I can not spell and you do not sound like a teacher. Maybe you are one of the said translaters!
Third.....how do immirgrants get more money in hand outs than the goverment pays state pension to people who have payed in all contributions. lot`s of immigrants have scams to screw more money out of UK. It makes me sick.
Posted by: Eil. | Sep 13, 2007 1:19:26 AM
Message to Paula (9th Sept)
I agree with much of what you say except for the bit about the queen must be seething at what this government have done & it's a slap in the face for the british sovereignty? on the contrary I'm afraid you see our beloved queen is indeed the biggest traitor of them all, she has signed all the other treaties that have taken us this far onto the Eurpoean union with the 6th & final one to be signed as early as summer 2008! she along with the rest of the traitorous politicians have betrayed this country & her people which amounts to treason (except Bliar & her majesty abolished the treason act back in 1997....how convenient!) the british people need to wake up & smell the coffee & quickly! in as little as a few months we could belong to Brussels where we will lose everything that is british including our counties which will become european regions. It's never too late, stop voting for lib/lab/con they have proved times many what liars they are, vote for a party that will free us from this noose that is hanging around everyone of our necks, it's only a matter of time (I don't mean UKIP either) if we were to withdraw from Europe altogether much of this madness would cease, let's not roll over & let these cretins take away our beloved country!
Posted by: Jayne | Sep 12, 2007 10:04:57 PM
God, I cannot believe this. Do you think you know English? Ever heard of SPELLING? All you do is complain about immigrants not speaking English, but my God! I teach English and I've just seen more mistakes here than I have in the class of absolute beginners! And, yes, I am not British. Quite grateful for it too. I like the English language, but reading this... I must say I'm seriously considering a carrer change. Why teach a language that people like you use?
And back to the topic: get off your high horse. 19th century and the British Empire are history. Also, some Eastern European countries are better than you think. But what would you know, judging by your use of grammar apparently your education system is completely messed up as well.
Posted by: jen | Sep 12, 2007 7:10:39 PM
I work for the NHS and see people having free treatment every day, they are non British. When I went to spain two years ago and had a bad attack of asthma, I had to pay even before they treated me, pay for the drugs and treatment and told to claim it back from my government. I had a (then) E11. Here it is just come along and be treated free.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 12, 2007 2:28:51 PM
No wonder the National Health Service and Education are in crisis!
In terms of health, people who have contributed to the system should be given priority - need comes second unless it is a matter of life or death. We must implement a culture of WORKING and EARNING the right to benefits, education and healthcare in this country since the balance is completely out of control. WHY must schools accommodate 134 different languages in some cases? The staff are unable to cope. Figures should be published regularly about how much we are spending on those who have never contributed as opposed to those who have.
Posted by: laura | Sep 12, 2007 11:00:28 AM
TROP WROTE:
Well, olka, seeing as you mention it: my missus and I were on holiday in Eastern Europe a few weeks back, when she hurt her leg quite badly. The local hospital sent an ambulance to the hotel, took us to a specialist orthopaedic clinic, saw her (very quickly) as soon as it was her turn, found our trouble with the language no obstacle to being as pleasant and helpful as they could be, and didn't charge us a penny.
MY REPLY:
First of all my name is not OLKA!!!The reason that your wife was seen so promptly is due to the fact that she has an injury that may have been classed as "major" which means you are seen quicker. Also the reason that you was not charged a penny is that your holiday insurance would have picked up the bill (a rather big one I would assume), considering that English people are one of the reasons that eastern European countries are flourishing - The English financial input and tourism, so why shouldn't they speak English when we go over there, considering that when they travel over here they are greeted with shops specially opened that stock their home countries food ect, but we are expected to respect the way things are done when we travel to a foreign country.
The UK and Australia were once partners, so even though that is no longer the case, why do we not implement the same rules that the Ozzies do, a points system where as if there is a particular occupation that is desperately needed in this country then it is acceptable to enter on a 12 month visa, then after that it is reviewed. Instead our gates were opened up, and boy did the floods arrive!!!!
People that work in this country are treated like they have the plaque, like we are in the wrong, we are punished by slapping taxes on us for all sorts of things, just so that the freeloaders that enter this country claiming to be "asylum seekers" can get given their little "welcome package" on arrival - that being, keys to a flat/house, benefit books and numerous other bits of information on how to drain this country dry! Why not make them go home and let their own government deal with them. I would like to see the response we would get if British people turned up in another country and tried to claim benefits or get a free house/flat............we would be told to **** off! You are unable to enter Oz unless you have money and a job to go to when you arrive and enough points to satisfy the government that you are not a freeloader.
Britain is the laughing stock of the world, we are seen as the country you can go to if you don't want to work, but want nice things and don't have to pay for them, just make the working, taxpaying people of the country pay for it instead.
I was born in the east end and not that long ago I was literally homeless, I turned to my local council for help, I was told, in no uncertain terms, that they could not help me unless I was claiming benefit, a single parent or seeking asylum! So basically unless I am lazy, sponging no good bum I cant get help. I have worked since the age of 15, always paid my taxes and I get nothing for it.
Posted by: Anon | Sep 11, 2007 12:39:27 PM
If you think things are bad now, wait till these people gain political power, you'll be lucky if you even get care.
Posted by: Quiet Man | Sep 11, 2007 12:08:16 PM
olka wrote:
>I work for the NHS and I would just like to let people know that when I book patients in, at no time do I give preference to "overseas" people. I give preference to the English, taxpaying patients. I am pretty sure that if we went to a country and needed medical attention we would certainly not be pushed to the front of the queue, and we would definitely have to pay for an interpreter out of our own pockets.
Well, olka, seeing as you mention it: my missus and I were on holiday in Eastern Europe a few weeks back, when she hurt her leg quite badly. The local hospital sent an ambulance to the hotel, took us to a specialist orthopaedic clinic, saw her (very quickly) as soon as it was her turn, found our trouble with the language no obstacle to being as pleasant and helpful as they could be, and didn't charge us a penny.
Nice to know visitors here will be treated with the same good grace by people like you, olka. What a credit to this country you are.
Posted by: Trop | Sep 10, 2007 8:29:44 PM
This is happening all over western europe,im afraid England are not alone....
From Denmark
Posted by: nielsen | Sep 10, 2007 8:21:13 PM
it must annoy a lot of people (some who are scared to speak up incase they get labelled a racist)in my opinion all these immigrants should be sent back home ,
im a tax payer and i dont like the fact that my hard earned money goes towards paying for these people to stay here, what about our homeless people,if a british couple starts a family they get put on a 2 year waiting list at the housing office for example my brother and pregnantwife who lives in an overcroweded housewith my mother and other sibling and then an immigrant comes in with there twelve children they get priority the house gets gutted ,walls plastered ,new kitchen and bathroom,combi boilers and on top of that they get grants for funiture ,
clothes and a car,mobile phone so they can phone home and sky tv payed for so they can watch there own languge channels, whos pays for that??? us mugs....we must show the goverment this is our country and we wont be pushed around!!!!!
Posted by: stuart miller | Sep 10, 2007 5:33:48 PM
There will soon be a chance for the British people to vote out the government that has sold you down the river and, in your place, imported millions of legal and illegal immigrants and asylum seekers.
Anyone who votes for the NuLabour Party needs to go to the NHS for psychiatric treatment but don't forget that you will need to quickly step to the back of the line as the non English speakers needs come first.
Posted by: TheOPINIONATOR | Sep 10, 2007 5:32:35 PM
This is no surprise, I work in a gp surgery and since 01.04.07 anyone who does not speak english are given double appointments to see a doctor, whereas if you speak english you can only have one appointment. I have seen dr's bend over backwards to help the non english speaking people, but everyone else gets treated as if they are a problem. Our dear old people in this country who have, some of them, fought for this country don't get any special treatment and when they do need any help they get pushed from pillar to post....... Disgusting
Posted by: anon | Sep 10, 2007 3:18:18 PM
First thing first...it's not fair to say that the british taxpayers fund everything in this country cause since I came over here nearly 3 years ago to work I've started paying my taxes and NI straight away and i still do so far...
Second thing it's not our fault that your contry hasn't got a clue how many people they let in here and how many they should...
but anyway maybe I couldn't speak english brilliant at first,but my boyfriend who's british never did or spoke anything for me so I had to learn everything without using any help...I am not saying that all polish people are really hard working and not using every benefit they can,but it's up to the individual really how you've been brought up...
your country should think more about being fair to everybody but they are just too scared to being accused of discrimination like first to get job in fire service is not my boyfriend born english man- but ethnic nationalities and womens, is that ok??
Posted by: olka | Sep 10, 2007 3:14:48 PM
I work for the NHS and I would just like to let people know that when I book patients in, at no time do I give preference to "overseas" people. I give preference to the English, taxpaying patients. I am pretty sure that if we went to a country and needed medical attention we would certainly not be pushed to the front of the queue, and we would definitely have to pay for an interpreter out of our own pockets.
I am fed up with the government brushing the British people to the side, no matter what the subject/problem is, you will find that it is a "foreigner" at the centre of it screaming discrimination of some sort. Well what about the people that were born in this so called "fabulous" country, what about everything that was fought for in the war, men that lost their lives for us and our country, and labour goes and hands it over to Europe like it is a piece of ****.
As much as I dislike the royal family and all they stand for, you can not deny it is the British monarchy that has given this country some of its famous history, well in another 100 years time the only history that will be handed down to our children and our children's children is that of people that were not born here and that came here claiming benefits and getting NHS care for free and numerous other things for free, and when they don't get it they cry racial discrimination........
Posted by: Anon | Sep 10, 2007 2:55:20 PM
..haha!! This story just goes to show that the British still think they rule the world...In Malta British lager louts expect everyone to speak English...EVERYWHERE AND AT ALL TIMES!...they think they have a god given right to be spoken to in the ONLY language they can (barely) speak...what goes around comes around I suppose... BRING YOUR TRANSLATOR WITH YOU IDIOTS...we'll speak to you in Maltese next time round...
Posted by: Ray Casha | Sep 10, 2007 2:29:29 PM
How much more can we take of this. How much more can we take having the Government taking the piss out of us. And we seem to fall for it all the time. Why?!? If you vote for Labour this country will continue to lose it's identity and everything that we have worked so hard for. I'm nearly 30 and i am so scared of what is going to happen to this country if something is not done about it quick. We should get tough, stop all this PC crap, look where it's got us. Be tough and hammer down on all this wrapping up in cotton wool rubbish. Anyone seen V for Vendatta? Lets start it now, hold on to our rights and dont back down. C'mon people lets grow some balls and fight back.
Posted by: Georgie Samuel-Camps | Sep 10, 2007 2:02:40 PM
Were is Enoch Powell
Posted by: Ken Cardwell | Sep 10, 2007 12:44:46 PM
If only we did something instead of just whinge.
How bad does it need to get before you would actually do something about the mess our country is in? Ah, waiting for others to do it for you. We have no leaders worth the word, we are on our own British people.
Posted by: mike | Sep 10, 2007 10:48:48 AM
Here we go again another of this Goverment making us British second class citizens. When are these clowns going to wake up, and no i am not a conservative i have voted Labour all my life until this last 10 years.
We can see why eveyone wants to come here because we are very easy pickings. You can get a few thousand pounds put in your pocket, go to the front of the housing queue and get a all furnished luxury house, get all the NHS treatment you want free and of course jump the queue, they dont need a job we will pay them and give them money to send home for there familys too, and we idiots the tax payer have to pay. It neither wonder this Goverment have to find new taxes for us to pay how else can they keep the immagrants in the lap of luxury..I wouldnt care if we could go to there country and get the same treatment but no way there not daft we are made to pay for everything.
I think it is time the British people start bombarding number 10 about all this. Make these stupid politicians with there high paid jobs and perks listen to us. And we need to say a big NO to the EU too.
Posted by: Pat Gray | Sep 10, 2007 10:35:06 AM
enough is enough it about time this goverment stop padering to the immagrats its a disgrace the way come to (our) country get thousand of pounds grants, luxury funished houses with free sky tv in there own languge ,walk around in there best of designer clothes,jewellery ,mobile phones etc and are allowed to jump to the front of the queues,for not only the nhs but housing and any thing else they want,and us the british tax payers foot the bill as usual and mind i add the british tax payers cant afford all these things as there draining the tax payer dry ,i have been staunch labour all my life but my self and all my family will not be voting for labour again,they are just not worth the vote!!!!!!
Posted by: juliemuller | Sep 10, 2007 10:13:08 AM
What a daft comment by "Mr Angry". The policy has been introduced purely to save money - nothing to do with "political correctness".
Posted by: John in Wales | Sep 10, 2007 9:34:24 AM
Everybody should not be treated EQUALLY. The English should be treated first then the non-English speaking if there's any time left. And they must be made responsible for paying their translator.
Posted by: Frank Jones | Sep 10, 2007 12:45:04 AM
If you have voted NULab/Tory/Lib-Dim in the last three General Elections, thankyou. Thankyou for allowing indigenous Britons to become third rate citizens of our homeland. I hope you're proud of yourselves! Thanks for sod-all. Never vote for the one party with the three names again.
Posted by: Vincent | Sep 9, 2007 11:13:37 PM
Totally sickning, what more can one say.
Posted by: milly | Sep 9, 2007 10:23:58 PM
same old story ... try going abroad to a hospital and see how far you get if you dont speak the lingo i cannot see them wheeling in the translators for us
and simon the poles might be working for minimum wage but when they are living 20 to a house paying less than £30 a week each and claiming back their tax with a p60 in hand when going on holiday i can assure you they have a better standard of living than most
the ones i work with can tell me more about the benifits avalible than someone whos worked here all their life
Posted by: mick palmer | Sep 9, 2007 8:29:49 PM
How cheeky are the powers that be in this country,we have polish valeters at the company i work for but they have to go back to poland every so often for national service and if ever there were a war they would have to go and serve in their own army,so why should we put up with every tom dick and harry coming here and getting a free ride,i personaly dont care how little they are paid for what job because you can bet a lot are not here legally.
Posted by: paula | Sep 9, 2007 8:23:59 PM
prioritize injuries in importance not in colour, race, religion, or fear of been acused of the above.
Posted by: nik | Sep 9, 2007 7:57:36 PM
what can i say i have already lost family to nhs second class treatment what have the rest of my family got to look forward to in a country where we count for nothing but our nhs contributions which pay for foreigners treatment
Posted by: allen | Sep 9, 2007 7:12:15 PM
Wow, you Brits sure put up with a lot.
Posted by: Andy from Down Under | Sep 9, 2007 6:25:17 PM
I had to wait 9 hours in a waiting room with immigrants who could not speak our language whilst waiting for an operation, each one went in before me, my op was nearly cancelled i ended up on a day ward. I think it is disgusting i am a tax payer and always have been. Not enough people complain. I sat patiently for 6 hours not one nurse told me there was a delay, if i hadnT of got off my backside I would still be waiting today.
Posted by: sue goodwin | Sep 9, 2007 5:50:40 PM
No wonder so many people are leaving Britain, is it any wonder! The British people are being sold out.
Posted by: Alison | Sep 9, 2007 5:47:13 PM
This is just hilarious. When it affects your wallet directly, then and only then (assuming you can be bothered) you may get off your backside and vote for the people that warned you about this years and years ago.
What is it going to take before you wake up and smell the bacon?
Do nothing and you deserve the consequences. Make a stand and make a change. Be someone, not a no-one!
Posted by: Simon | Sep 9, 2007 5:47:09 PM
I WAS BORN HERE FROM POLISH PARENTS WHO CAME OVER DURING THE 2ND WORLD WAR. LIFE WAS NOT MADE EASY FOR THEM, NO TRANSLATORS, NO FREE HAND OUTS, NO FREE HOUSING. ONLY HARD WORK, WHICH MOST OF THEM SETTLED TO DO, SO THAT THEY COULD PROVIDE A GOOD LIVE FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR OFFSPRING.
AS OFFSPRING FROM THAT GENERATION, WE WERE BOUGHT UP WITH THE VALUES YOU SHOULD OWN YOUR OWN HOUSE, YOU SHOULD STUDY HARD, YOU SHOULD WORK FOR THINGS YOU WANT AND NEVER BUT NEVER ASK OR ACCEPT HAND OUTS.
THAT KIND OF ETHOS IS CARRIED ON FROM GENERATION TO GENERATION.
MOST OF THE POLISH PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME OVER NOW ARE WORKING IN THE MOST MENIAL JOBS FOR LESS THAT THE MINIMUM WAGE AND THEY DONT EXPECT HAND OUTS OR TRANSLATORS AS MOST OF THEM CAN SPEAK AND UNDERSTAND ENGLISH.
Posted by: Maja | Sep 9, 2007 5:18:40 PM
IT'S SIMPLE WE SHOULD NOT VOTE LABOUR!!!!!!
I CANNOT BELIEVE WHAT I HAVE JUST READ.
Posted by: lindsay Davidson | Sep 9, 2007 5:11:37 PM
I was outraged after reading this article,I live in spain (and after reading this article i now know why i moved out of britain) here in Spain when u visit the doctors or hospital u MUST take your own translater otherwise you will not be seen no wonder all the immegrants bypass other eu countries and head for britain it is now a laughing stock to be british as i am sure all other nations take the rise out of (GREAT) Britian
Posted by: jane | Sep 9, 2007 4:49:56 PM
i think we should be like america and have to take out insurance,scrap national insurance and the nhs and make people buy health insurance it would put a stop to these scroungers and it would solve the immigration problem, by the way i wonder if you go to other countrys is asylum seeker an occupation on their governments data base because it is on ours and they wonder why rascism is rife.
Posted by: paula | Sep 9, 2007 4:49:53 PM
I can honestly say i am digsted by what i have read in the news of the world today.
Forign assylum seekers and ilegals bypassing the paying tax payers in our hospitals just because they neglected to learn OUR language before hey came here and now a government who have given up a little more of our heritage and given brussels the okay to change our BRITISH passports into EU passports,
i'm sorry but i don't want an EU Passport i want a BRITISH one i am BRITISH and proud of it i have however lost all confidence in this government, they are not looking out for the people of this country the people who put them in power if they were they would listen to what we have to say, this after all is supposed to be a democratic country?
ermmmmm so when did we get asked if we wanted EU passports then?.
If i were the queen i would seething at what they have done it's a slap in the face to the royal family and this countries heritage.
Little by little this country is being fed to the EU and we are getting no say or choice in the matter, criminals will be released onto our streets but what then? are the EU going to start shipping over criminals from other countries to our prisons and using our country as one big jail?
The conservatives are no better they will not help this country regain it's lost heritage it's about time we had a government who is dedicated to this country and who listens to what it's people have to say.
it's pathetic that this government has lost all backbone.
Posted by: fangy | Sep 9, 2007 4:08:37 PM
The British people need to wake up to the treachery of the labour and conservative governments which have brought us to the point that we are at the bottom of the pile in our own country, while foreigners come over here and get preferential treatment absolutely at our expense. Housing, they got it! Health care, they get it first and we pay for interpreters for them.
Posted by: Sue | Sep 9, 2007 4:00:08 PM
this is typical, its gettin just like tryin to get a council house the people who have payed tax all their life can't get a house where as these lay abouts come over here and are given everything.
Posted by: mick | Sep 9, 2007 3:53:17 PM
I lived in that area for most of my life and moved out because I was sick and tired of being treated like a 2nd classs citizen.
I can understand the reasoning behind the policy but surely in an area where immigrants of all nationalities make up about 55-60% of the local population, the cheapest option would be to employ permanent interpreters and then pay them a fixed salary like they pay the secretaries etc?
This is yet another example of PC gone mad and justifies the Governments' stance (finally) that new immigrants MUST learn to speak English if they want citizenship. And who's to say that someone who can speak perfectly good English pretends that they can't just to get to the front of the queue?
This is most definitely discrimination and a referral MUST be made to the Commission for Racial Equality.
Perhaps the time has come to re-invent the NHS. Why not allow anyone who choses to, to opt-out of paying for the NHS as long as their National Insurance Contributions are paid (at source) into a private medical insurance scheme such as Bupa etc instead.
That way, the people who pay for the service will actually get the service as and when they need it and those who just visit our wonderful Island just for the free medical treatment they require, will then have second thoughts about coming here!
If doctors, chief executives and administrators are not prepared to be fair to the people who have paid for their medical training and employment, then the Government must!
Posted by: Bernadette Giffen | Sep 9, 2007 3:41:58 PM
What in gods name is wrong with this country? We are British people in our own country, why the hell are we allowing other people from other countries to dictate what we should put in our passports or get pushed to the back of our own NHS queues because there are people who have come to OUR country who cannot even speak OUR language
but expect us to support them just because they are members of the European union. It is time we got rid of the politically correct brigades attitude and stood up for our rights as native British citizens.
We have our own traditions and ways that date back hundreds of years and should be proud of them, we have a royal family that we love above all others and that will all change if we allow the European community to dictate our laws and the politically correct types to control how we react to others.
We need to take a leaf out of Australia’s book and told these immigrants that if they cannot speak the language they cannot come here, if they do not like the British way of life (not the politically correct way – the British way) then there is a solution –GO HOME.
Personally I for one am fed up with treating people with kid gloves and being treated like a second class citizen in my own country!
Posted by: John Brown | Sep 9, 2007 3:31:37 PM
SCRAP THE NHS SCRAP THE BENEFITS SYSTEM AND SEE WHERE ALL THESE PEOPLE ARE IN 2 YEARS ??? NOWHERE TO BE SEEN.
THE GOVERNMENT HAVE NEGLECTED THIS ISSUE FOR TOO LONG IMMIGRATION IS THE ONLY!! ISSUE FOR THE MAJORITY OF ENGLISH CITIZENS.
YOU PAY TAX NAT INSURANCE AND THE ONLY RETURN YOU CAN NOW GUARANTEE IS IF YOU ARE UNFORTUNATE ENOUGH TOO FALL ILL AND USE THE NHS
BUT SOON IT WILL BE GONE DESTROYED BY FREELOADERS
LABOUR OUT BUT WHO WILL REPAIR THEIR DAMAGE????
Posted by: nick | Sep 9, 2007 2:16:40 PM
what a disgrace , being a British in so called europain union , losing our identity and now our basic right to Brussel pen pusher , i have been living in the USA for 7years and coming back home i bit i will not have any right to any help at the age of 55yrs but if a Polish or any other imigrant come to our coutry they will be given housing and health prioty , tell me if this is a British . i wouder what Queen Victoria would saying to this shamble
Posted by: salem agilah | Sep 9, 2007 2:13:19 PM
Welcome to the world of racial equality and ethnic diversity, where we, the British people, are pushed to the back of every queue to make way for illegal immigrants and so called 'asylum seekers'. Unless the British people vote for a political party which actually caters to their needs, then expect situations like this to get even worse.
Do you all want urban unrest, racial tensions and the possibility of a full blown race war to disrupt your daily lives? No? Then for Christ's sake, vote this idiotic Labour government OUT and a true patriotic government IN.
Posted by: GWS | Sep 9, 2007 2:05:42 PM
Absolute disgrace. Whoever put this policy in place should be sacked and deported to pluto. The British public are being abused in their own country. Thank you News of the World in bringing this story to the public.
Posted by: Faye | Sep 9, 2007 1:58:00 PM
Personally i dont agree with the amount of immigrants in the country at the moment and in a good 10-15 years this country is not going to be known as Great Britain. As for queue jumping because they cant speak English then thats there own fault and shouldnt come here if they cant speak our language. If i went to Poland the least i could do is to speak there language. I pay my taxes so i should be given priority, especially because im born and bred in this country.
Posted by: Jay Hexter | Sep 9, 2007 1:47:38 PM
I think I would go to the front of the queue, kick up a fuss, let the police eject me and get the newspapers onto it and get the maximum publicity. ALL IMMIGRANTS SHOULD SPEAK ENGLISH OR AT LEAST BRING SOMEWONE THEY KNOW WHO DOES
Posted by: shirley | Sep 9, 2007 1:46:44 PM
What an absolute disgrace, that again the British public have to put up with this garbage.
Again the so called "politicians" making decisions on our behalf, donot fully understand the impact of letting people into the country who cannot even speak the language.
These decisions are like a cancer on our society, slowly draining away any good left in a country that used to be called GREAT BRITAIN....
Posted by: Wayne | Sep 9, 2007 1:38:49 PM
I honestly believe that this is the best news that I have read to date. Something like this is needed to wake up the apathetic Englishman from his stupor and realise that this despotic government will not be happy until they have reduced him to the role of second class citizen in his own country. The traitors who betrayed the trust put into them by a gullible electorate, must be removed from office by whatever means are required and stand trial for treason against the State and its people.
Posted by: Peter C. Lucas | Sep 9, 2007 1:27:25 PM
Isnt this racist?to say non english speaking patients are priority all my doctors surgerys and hospitals etc say patients will be seen in order of appointment.not order of whatever country you are from simple answer everyone in this country should be learnt to speak ENGLISH if they dont like it they are welcome to leave saves us all waiting round for hours while they get the royal treatment.
Posted by: annoyed | Sep 9, 2007 1:22:38 PM
Disgusting
Posted by: emma | Sep 9, 2007 1:20:16 PM
My father used to say that they may laugh at Enoch Powell but one day they would come to agree with him ........ has this day arrived?
Posted by: laura | Sep 9, 2007 1:19:40 PM
I'm cracking up under the strain of all this & I'm going to need a shrink soon as I'm going insane with pure rage.
Wonder if i can get a psychiatrist to treat me for NHS rage & tell me all is well after some exposure therapy, problem is are there any available shrinks that can understand? If so then he's surely mad like me & in need of treatment.
Posted by: Aiddy | Sep 9, 2007 1:09:12 PM
We need to do more than sound off about all of these unfair acts that insult British nationals.
Politician's and other servant's of the public
tend to ride roughshod over public opinion.
We need a way to rein them in,a way to make them redundant,(if the public decide)just the same as an employee would be made redundant if they made bad decisions. this would be the first move back to sanity.
Anyone with ideas how to do this please post.
Posted by: K.Dagg | Sep 9, 2007 1:08:14 PM
All you British writing here will probably vote once again for the STUPID COMMUNIST/MARXIST LABOUR PARTY....We deserve all that this rotten "Government" throw at us...because WE DO NOTHING!
Posted by: Susannah | Sep 9, 2007 1:03:37 PM
why does the british taxpayer, have to foot the
bill for interpreters,in spain,people have to pay for their interpreters themselves if they
cant speak spanish, you dont expect the spainish
to pay,
Posted by: TONY CHAPMAN | Sep 9, 2007 1:03:06 PM
this country isnt run by our own people anymore it cares more about asylum seekers and it really infuriates me that last week i was in lanzarote with my 3 children my youngest has adhd and got a ear infection i had to visit the doctor and pay for her to write the perscription out then buy the antibiotics and ear drops all together it came to 130 euros how come they come here and get it free??? and our taxes are paying for it!!! ive never been racist but its making me dislike these ppl we have homeless people ov our own and poverty stricken areas,these immigrants get mobiles furniture cars the gouverment denies it ive seen it with my own eyes we need to wise up and send the whole lot home do we get same treatment (free) when we visit their countrys? no we dontwe need to do something now !!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: shirley gray | Sep 9, 2007 12:56:48 PM
We are now living in a country where British people are put second in most things thanks to this do gooding government, the only way to stop this is to get rid of this government and all the do gooders they have put in positions of power.
Posted by: Ken Roughsedge | Sep 9, 2007 12:46:28 PM
Get used to going to the back of the queue, it is called diversity!
Posted by: Peter Folkes | Sep 9, 2007 12:46:11 PM
This is the fault of the British people them selves.
They have not stood up against this bunch of idiots that have run this country for the last ten years (they are doing nicely thank you).
Until we get a change of goverment (anyone will do), this will only get worse!
Posted by: Mat | Sep 9, 2007 12:34:03 PM
This is the price that the British people must pay when they persist in electing left leaning politically correct parties to government. You were told wern't you!
Posted by: John | Sep 9, 2007 12:31:32 PM
Here we go again getting shafted by a totally useless stinking government.We need a revolution immediately.
Posted by: Russell Ufton | Sep 9, 2007 12:11:07 PM
This story is making my blood boil I have recently been discharged from NHS hospital and off course they are having problems there off course the care given by the staff was first class.
Immigrants should not have access to the NHS if they need treatment then should pay for it!, why is tax payers money being spent on interpreters as it should be used for treatment and care not wasted like that.
No wounder the NHS is in such a financial mess and immigrants should be not be queue jumping!!!!
Posted by: John | Sep 9, 2007 12:03:56 PM
MY SON HAS SPECIAL NEEDS AND THE SCHOOL HE WENT TO SAID THAT THEY DID NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO TAEACH HIM BUT THEY HAD THE MONEY TO GET A PERSON IN TO INTERPER FOR THE CHILD AS SHE COULD NOT SPEAK ENGLISH .
SO MY SONS SCHHOL WORK HAS SUFFERED THEY SHOULD LEARN ENGLISH .
ANOTHER OF MY CHILDREN HAS TO LEARN POLISH AS THERE ARE POLISH IN HIS CLASS THIS IS NOT ON
Posted by: SHARON | Sep 9, 2007 11:27:27 AM
Well what a state we are in now........I do not understand why this is suddenly a surprise, could we not see this happening?? I both agree and disagree with Anna's comment about working abroad as a Brit, I have lived and worked in Russia on and off for 10 Years, and it is the same here, I, as a Brit need to bring MY OWN translator to an official place, but my queque jumping is down to me PAYING for the privilege,yes it is considered as a back hander, but never the less I STILL PAY TO QUEQUE JUMP!!!! Maybe I should speak to the Russian officials here and state that I need preferential treatment, they pay for the translator, and I go to the front of the queque ALL FOR FREE!! See how quick my visa would be revoked and me finding myself on the next flight back to the UK. Maybe without wanting to appear to be inciting a revolution------as if I do get kicked out of this Country then because I am not PC I may not even be able to get back into the Country of my Birth, but something needs to be done before this once Great Nation of ours EXPLODES.
Posted by: Paul Phillips | Sep 9, 2007 11:17:08 AM
It's about time that the Government remembered who the people are who have actually paid into the system all their working lives. I have just had a hospital stay in Germany and now have to find over 3000 euros to pay for it. Just because you are European should not automatically entitle you to come and abuse the NHS. The only people who should be allowed to use the NHS are the ones who have paid into it for at least the last 7 years, or they can prove that they have 4 generations of British blood in them. Sorry if this sounds racist, but that is how I feel. This country is heading towards anarchy with its attitude towards its native people. Brits are getting fed up to the back teeth of being treated as second class citizens while everyone else of every race, creed and colour gets pushed to the front.
Posted by: Kim | Sep 9, 2007 11:16:34 AM
End this madness now and vote for the only party for the British!, use your vote!.
Posted by: EP | Sep 9, 2007 11:08:08 AM
Well what a state we are in now........I do not understand why this is suddenly a surprise, could we not see this happening?? I both agree and disagree with Anna's comment about working abroad as a Brit, I have lived and worked in Russia on and off for 10 Years, and it is the same here, I, as a Brit need to bring MY OWN translator to an official place, but my queque jumping is down to me PAYING for the privilege,yes it is considered as a back hander, but never the less I STILL PAY TO QUEQUE JUMP!!!! Maybe I should speak to the Russian officials here and state that I need preferential treatment, they pay for the translator, and I go to the front of the queque ALL FOR FREE!! See how quick my visa would be revoked and me finding myself on the next flight back to the UK. Maybe without wanting to appear to be inciting a revolution------as if I do get kicked out of this Country then because I am not PC I may not even be able to get back into the Country of my Birth, but something needs to be done before this once Great Nation of ours EXPLODES.
Posted by: Paul Phillips | Sep 9, 2007 11:03:26 AM
All I have to say is why are immigrants being seen by our health service anyway? I'm married to a Jamaican and when I visited Jamaica 5 years ago I was taken sick, not only did I have to wait my turn in the queue (which I didn't mind doing) but I also had to pay for my consultation and treatment before I was seen.
This country is far too easy and with all the do gooders I feel it will only get worse.
Posted by: Den | Sep 9, 2007 10:58:31 AM
This is yet another example of how New Labour has undermined the indigenous population of the uk by its constant meddling with fiscal policies and procedures. The biggest concern is that we have no credible opposition to put right the wrongs, since the whole of the media machine and the ultra cautious politicians seem overly pre-occupied with securing the 'centre ground' of the political spectrum. People, the electorate, should take heed that it is the clamour for this so called centre ground that has promoted the aspirations of the political
correctness movement. This particular subject is just one of many facets in this area. No one has yet raised an eyebrow over this governments latest drive to pump £1.2Billion into educational needs of pupils failing at English. On the face of it a good idea, scratch the surface and it means one on one tuition for immigrant children who will go on to achieve far better qualifications due to the huge resource spent on them. Meanwhile, white, working class children (especially boys) will continue to perform badly even at the lower end of the exam league tables.
What a country!
Posted by: artie bucco | Sep 9, 2007 10:53:04 AM
Would it be beyond the realms of common sense for these patients to bring their own interpretor if they cant be bothered to learn English. Although how someone can believe that they can live & work in a country without learning the language is ridiculous, or maybe its me being ridiculous in thinking that they want to work and intergrate properly into society. The UK should perhaps be more like some other countries where doctors/hospitals will not be held responsible for translations in case of misdiagnosis. Just how much money is being wasted on translators & translation of leaflets within the NHS and Benefits and how many hospitals wards could be kept open and how much more could be allocated to pensions with that money??
Posted by: Sandra Reid | Sep 9, 2007 10:50:42 AM
Can you tell me why britain is expected to provide these translators in the first place ,at the tax payers expense.The people using these services have come to this country of their own free willl,it doesn't matter if they are holiday makers or workers or shirkers.Why should the British tax payers have to foot the bill.
Posted by: PATRICK EDGE | Sep 9, 2007 10:48:15 AM
Another total farce! The muppets who make these decisions totally disregard the vast majority of people who try to use the system correctly, actually speak the language-and don't want to be pushed down the queue by someone who is half likely to have a less serious complaint than themselves....Pathetic!.... Why doesnt the NHS just set up a system of contact nuimbers for their staff to get put through to an interpreter on the phone?...Too easy and too cheap I suppose!...
Posted by: Dave Brown | Sep 9, 2007 10:47:17 AM
I have come to Italy to live. I have cancer and need a lot of medical treatment. Italy does not provide interpreters and the onus is on me to learn Italian. The same should apply in the UK. Immigrants MUST learn English and learn to fit in - not receive treatment as special cases. Millions which could be better spent are wasted providing interpreters and translated papers in dozens of different languages. Grasp the nettle and stop doing it. You would actually benefit the immigrants because then they would have to learn English. Nothing would drag me back to the insanity and corruption so evident in England.
Posted by: Kevin McKenna | Sep 9, 2007 10:35:25 AM
the NHS management has no brains. the trust's hospitals never behave like medical institutions. the staff are never sociable, courteous, instead they behave as bank or council employees ridiculously asking you to wait for hrs even in A & E. as a migrant, i have never heard or seen a national medical system being run in such a careless way. if a non english speaking immigrant wants the service, let the immigrant approach their community orgainsations for an interpreter. let NHS or the Government fund for these kind of community organisations to look after the language needs of the non english speaking immigrants
Posted by: Balakumar | Sep 9, 2007 10:31:08 AM
Whats wrong with asking for volunteers to translate. I think that they should be willing to help their own
Posted by: Geoff | Sep 9, 2007 10:19:35 AM
Why is everyone so surprised by this. We knew it would happen years agoand should have put a stop to it then.
The London Hospital in Whitechapel is one of the worse. I think the signposts within the hospital are in about 9 different languages. I felt like a foreigner in my own country!
Posted by: Sue | Sep 9, 2007 10:12:16 AM
Surely there should be a qualification period, say five years residence in this country, before anyone qualifies for NHS treatment... until then they can pay for medical insurance.
Posted by: Peter | Sep 9, 2007 9:59:03 AM
Another example of political correctness to the extreme. Tourists aside a massive overhaul need to be done of how immigrants come in and are treated as opposed to the general population. In every sector not just health. Those who come here to live must be able to speak English, this is an English speaking country. How can you contribute if you don't speak the language?? If they want a translator then they pay for their own. I was born in the UK, but with a father in the army I spent a lot of time growing up overseas and nowhere have I seen more of PC gone wrong than here. Immigrants moving to any country must adapt to the country in which they choose to live, the country must not change to suit immigrants. I am not saying not be open to other cultures and those of different backgrounds, but this is ridiculous. I do not believe the government will do anything to change this as it doesn't seem to affect the politicians on a day to day basis, they seem to live in a bubble. Everyday more and more this country is becoming a place where those who want to fob off the system can quite happily do so and have other hardworking people funding their lifestyles. Those who commit crimes are being allowed to stay, why does this country seem intent on hanging on to those kinds of people. Ship them off!!
Posted by: Rachel | Sep 9, 2007 9:38:01 AM
I am so incensed about the latest farce of the NHS queues and our Government I wanted to share my wifes translation experience with you.
My wife is Russian and was asked to do translation work, she did translation twice on both occasions it was young pregnant women just trying to get every penny possible from the gullible English Government (how proud we must be) On the second and last occasion my wife did the translation it was a pregnant Latvian who had arrived pregnant from Latvia (she did not even know who the father was) all she wanted was to know what extra benefits she could get, she had absolutely no shame. After this my wife refused to do any more translation as it was immoral. My wife got paid £35 for 20 minutes work how much do the agency get paid how much does this cost us as taxpayers? My wife is Eastern European but has never claimed a penny, these immoral money grabbing queue jumpers make me sick, for one learn to speak the language of the country you live in. Why don't we just put these shameless people on the next flight home? The country is a disgrace. It must act now!!!!
Posted by: Martin Lewis | Sep 9, 2007 9:35:07 AM
I have always tried to inpress upon my childeren that we are all born the same, and it is how hard you work that determines how far you go in life, silly me
Posted by: clare donovan | Sep 9, 2007 9:34:03 AM
Another 'faux pas'for this caring British Government. We lived in Spain for a year and our local doctor would only see us if we brought along an interpretor at our own expense or be able to speak the language fluently - so why doesn't this apply in Great Britain?? Why should we continue to accept this second rate service? On a similar note, why are we not provided with interpretors when we struggle to understand doctors whose command of the English language is not perfect either?
Posted by: Len Muggeridge | Sep 9, 2007 9:28:44 AM
The cost of an interpreter is expensive therefore I can understand the trusts not wanting to pay them more than is totally necessary. But why are we not insisting that all immigrants have a basic command of the English language before being allowed to come into this country. Another way round this is to insists that if the patient cannot speak English then they must bring a member of their family or community with them who CAN. How do they manage in the country normally if they dont speak English - someone they know must be able to do it for them?
Posted by: laura | Sep 9, 2007 9:24:30 AM
This country is crazy, and we are letting it happen. We get an immigrant person coming over to have a better life and work, pay taxes, and is greatful to our country for the opportunity. He or she learns the language to help to progress and fit in. This person will then start going to appointments and having to wait in long queues to be seen just like us. Why would they want to do things correctly when they then start to get penalised for it.
Posted by: david | Sep 9, 2007 9:22:04 AM
At least the Brits got something out of most of these people place of birth,over here in Ireland they are coming in on their droves and demanding this and that I hate the fact that the contry has prospered if this is the results, the dregs of the world arriving in their thousands.
Posted by: michael campbell | Sep 9, 2007 9:10:13 AM
Here on the Costa del Sol we have volunteer interpreters at clinics and hospitals otherwise you get by in Spanish. As we're in Spain it's not totally unreasonable to expect Spanish to be spoken.
Posted by: Gwilym Rhys-Jones | Sep 9, 2007 9:09:24 AM
My in laws moved to Spain last year,they were expected to learn Spanish as even though the staff at their doctors could speak English they expect you to make an effort and learn the language. People coming here should learn English. Why should the NHS have to pay for interpreters? I am starting to hate living in this country now, there is so much ridiculous political correctness, positive discrimination (which i think is very negative)and racism is very one sided.When is someone going to do something about it?
Posted by: sarah hill | Sep 9, 2007 9:07:01 AM
My friend was assaulted.
We went to the hospital and had to wait 2.5 hours.
Thw wait was because off immigrants. They were comming into the hospital after us and went before us. When I complained I was called racist.
I lived in Africa for a year, when I went to the hospital there, I had to pay and wait in line, not free like they get here.
We speak out about this and we are called racist and get threatend to go to to court.
No wonder people are angree, the polititions have gave our once great country away.
Posted by: billy whitehead | Sep 9, 2007 8:47:18 AM
So lets get this right if you are a Non English speaking immigrant or Health Tourist and have not paid any National Insurance contributions whatsoever and go to a Hospital Out Patient department you are PRIORITISED and given your very own interpreter while the indigenous population who actually PAY by their Tax and NI contributions for the Hospital and all the staff including the interpreters sit and queue behind you. Welcome to PC,leftwing, Multi Culti, Guardianista, Moonbat UK hope you enjoy it while it lasts because the righteous anger of the people will explode soon. Thank God I escaped wild horses would never drag me back.
Posted by: Peter Barry | Sep 9, 2007 8:34:51 AM
Don't you think the UK is in the Brown Stuff - quite literally!?!
Posted by: rmw | Sep 9, 2007 8:34:32 AM
"will the last brit leaving this once great nation please turn off the lights"
Posted by: Andrew Pound | Sep 9, 2007 8:30:55 AM
typical labour,surely to god someone in goverment has to stand up and say something about the mass immigration problem gripping this country,im not talking rivers of blood speeches here just common sense,the uk is the "FATHER FEED THEM ALL" state of europe.ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
Posted by: andy macdonald | Sep 9, 2007 8:25:01 AM
If it is a question of cost that non-English speakers are seen first, then by axing vice-chairman and the top heavy executives that are not needed, savings can be made. (the savings helping pay the translators).
On the translators scene, then perhaps recruitment from within the rank and file of local people, just like the W.V.S. used to provide, and League of Friends might produce translators. Has the NHS
Executive tried this?
Posted by: Brian Foord | Sep 9, 2007 8:21:00 AM
The worst thing is, it does not surprise anybody and we can rant and rave all we like, nothing will change. I still sincerely believe we live in the best country in the world, but we need major changes and soon, before all the Brits who are able too leave, and who'll fund the governments brilliant schemes then?
Posted by: Rachel | Sep 9, 2007 8:19:55 AM
If you can't speak English then presumably you're not working or contributing to the UK in any useful way ... in which case why are MY taxes being used to treat you?
Posted by: Emmy | Sep 9, 2007 8:17:57 AM
This is sick but dont believe it only happens in the UK i live in Germany and its the same.The whole of European Citizens are becomong 2nd class thanks to Political Correctness . Thanks to Blair , Schroeder and the rest of the idiots. Its time to fight back, what happened to the pride we in England once had as working class
Peter Kent
Posted by: Peter Kent | Sep 9, 2007 8:15:36 AM
We vote for the Politians who ignore or approve and creat this situation with their policies on immigration, employment, benifits etc We love them or appear to love to hate them, but we still vote for them and this situation is the result. We are the ones who should feel the shame, because those who are vulnerable are often not able to vote like we can and / or do. They are the victims that deserve pity, not those among us who vote for this situation and who are victims to themselves. Think seriously about the policies of those who you vote.
Posted by: D. Bell | Sep 9, 2007 8:11:39 AM
I had to visit a hospital in Northern Spain last year, there were no English Speaking doctors on duty and I don't speak Spanish - I did not expect them to offer me an official translator, does any country in the world offer this service other than the UK????????
Posted by: Mark | Sep 9, 2007 8:08:09 AM
Actually, I cannot complain or criticise, because I've been working and living in Poland for nearly 10 years and as a native speaker of English have experienced taking priority over Poles who stand for hours in queues at the doctor's, hospital, government offices - it's a fact of life over here, it's nothing unusual to end up taking half a day off work to take your documents to some official office just for one signature or stamp, or to wait for hours to even make an appointment to see someone.
It must be equally irritating for them (Poles I mean) to see some English woman turn up and waltz in ahead of them, and although I actually do not like doing it I have to take advantage of such preferential treatment to save time. Not only this, but very often a person who comes with me (to assist with interpretation and translation of complicated documents, for example) is also limited for time and therefore we sometimes have no choice but to queue-jump. However, I would repeat that I do not necessarily feel very good about it.
I'm not suggesting what is happening back home in the UK is either right or wrong, I may live abroad but I haven't given up my citizenship so I do sympathise with people's comments and understand it makes British tax-payers angry, I just wanted to present a different perspective of how Brits are treated abroad.
Posted by: Anna | Sep 9, 2007 7:33:57 AM
Think of how many operations could have been performed with the money spent on interpreters. Of the extra nurse and doc salaries that could have been spent on. On the extra clinics that could have been held. This is just another example of the exhorbitant money wasted by the NHS and the managers that run i